3D Printing and the Future of Sustainable Manufacturing
Jillian Northrup is the co-founder of Model - No., a company focused on building the future of furniture - in a sustainable fashion. Their secret, using 3D printers to customize design, materials, and build only what people want to buy. And do it all locally! Not only are Jillian and their colleagues amazing designers, they also build all their 3D printers.
Listen to the podcast to learn how the team at Model-No. are taking 3D printing to a whole new dimension ;)
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Imperfect Show Notes
While these notes are not perfect (computer transcription is still a work in progress), they give you the gist of the conversation. Enjoy!
My conversation with Jillian Northrup:
Morgan Bailey 0:02
Hello, and welcome to the profit meets impact podcast where we explore the intersection of doing well and doing good in the world. I'm your host, Morgan Bailey. And I'm excited to bring you the wisdom of entrepreneurs and thought leaders that are using business to create sustainable and meaningful change across the globe. So I'm sure it wouldn't be too far of a reach to say we've all spent a lot more time home over the past year, which is driven a lot of home improvement projects is driven a huge demand for lumber, which is up, you know, I think over 350% more expensive than it was pre pandemic. In terms of furnishing and furniture, there's significant delays, and shipping challenges. And I've recently been in the market to buy a couch and I've been looking to buy a couch that really kind of reflects my values, both in terms of social environmental issues. And I found it challenging some of the what I found and couches that you would find in some of the name brands stores, is sourced in Indonesia and virgin forest in the Amazon really just contributing deforestation right there, which is alarming that I can find that right in the very stores. It's so many of us shop at. And I got really curious about, you know how to purchase furnishing sustainably.
And that's kind of segue into the conversation that we're gonna have today, actually, with Jillian Northrup, who is the co founder of model number, which is a sustainable design furniture design company that uses 3d printing to create custom furniture. Now, 3d printing is all sudden new technology, it still is kind of at the leading edge and allows us to do some things with manufacturing, that traditional manufacturing hasn't allowed us to do, and allows us to make single custom products, make them locally to have with a wide variety of materials, you know, it could be sustainable materials. And it really just gives us a lot more leverage and how we can create things without having to ship them from abroad without having to mass produce them. And this idea 3d printing is really challenging the paradigm that we've had for manufacturing, which is building bulk overseas and ship over. And so I think we're really going to see this take hold over the next decade and really change the landscape of manufacturing and how we design and purchase goods. So I'm really curious for you to hear this podcast, you'll learn a lot about 3d printing and what that technology looks like, and how it might impact us in the future. So hope you enjoy it.
Jillian, it's it's a real pleasure to have you on the show. Welcome.
Jillian Northrup 2:48
Thank you, Morgan. I'm happy to be here. Awesome. So I was really excited when you reached out. Because you get to play with big machines called 3d printers, which to me still seem like they're in the future. And you're building furniture with 3d printer and a sustainable way and kind of leading the industry.
Morgan Bailey 3:08
Before we get ahead.
Yeah, I'm curious. 3d printers are in the future, which is why why we're playing with them now. So that we can lead that yes, indeed. Okay, so I'm really excited to it. I'm gonna need little education on 3d printers in a minute. But first, I'm just curious, you know, you have a background in design and architecture, you know, what led you to this stage where you're at right now, because you're now running model number, as co founder. And how did you end up in this in this place? doing such cool things?
Jillian Northrup 3:42
Yeah, thanks. Um, it is cool. I think it's very fun. We, everyone at model number loves their jobs because we get to play with 3d printers all day. So so it is a lot of fun. I, I started my journey, I guess,
after college and moving to San Francisco, I grew up in the East Coast and then kind of slowly moved west and met my husband to be in San Francisco. And one of the things that we really hit off on was running things together immediately. And not long after we were married. We started our first company and decided to get into digital fabrication actually really early back in 2005.
Morgan Bailey 4:38
So I need to slow down really quickly. So you like you and your partner just like getting into building I feel like for most people that's like that's crazy. But that's amazing. That we that we like to jump in and yeah, work together so intimately. That's amazing.
Jillian Northrup 4:54
Right? First of all that we like to work together at all is is amazing to a lot of people that you really tell people that, you know, it either works or it doesn't. Sometimes people will ask, you know, on that, on that side of it, how do you work with your partner with your life partner? How do you? How do you like work every day at your job with them? Which, you know, it either works or it doesn't. It's not for everyone, for sure. And it and even people who do it well, there's, there's, of course, there's a lot of struggles, like, like working with anyone, like living with any but but we we've made it work for a long time. 2005 In fact, is when we started the first company, and we bought a CNC routing table at that time, which was this digital digital fabrication machine, it's a big bed that is computer controlled, you can send it files, like flat vector files, and it cuts them out. We were super inspired by it as designers, my husband is architect, I come from more of a design graphic design background, and we started the company thinking, this digital fabrication thing is so awesome. And so empowering to a designer, we just got really inspired by it and started a company around it doing design services, and fabrication services, and eventually architectural services. So that was kind of our, our first company. And through that company, we met a lot of really interesting people. In the Bay Area, a lot of really interesting clients. Fast forward, many, many years down the road a couple years ago, several years ago, now we met a client, someone who became a client. And we were working together on their project. And they were having this problem that honestly, many of our clients had over the over our, our journey of running the company, which is when because we did custom fabric custom elements for objects. So custom furniture, custom designs of furniture, there comes a point where you don't want everything custom made, because they cost a lot of money. And it takes a long time. And eventually, you know, you need to keep your projects not costing too much money and to have them completed in on it on a budget. So you have to buy some things off the shelf. So they're looking at this coffee table that they wanted. And it was just not the right, they couldn't find the right size. And so they said, Okay, well, let's just get one made custom, pretty simple design. They went down that road of getting a custom made from someone, and then it was just this super painful thing it was going to take a really long time to get it made. It was going to cost a lot of money, and just started this conversation of why in this day and age of such high tech, digital manufacturing that is used, it's utilized across all furniture fabrication industries. Why does it? Why does it take so long to make something custom? And why don't more companies offer quick turnaround time of their own pieces, you know, just to change the size not even to change the design or the elements of it just to offer different sizes? Why is it such a heartache and could could utilizing things like 3d printing make this a better experience for customers. So that was a big conversation. And that conversation in itself lasted for a year before we did anything. But this person wanted to becoming one of our one of the founders of the company. And we the three of us started this company back in 2018. with just the thought of let's let's play in this space. And let's try to figure out how digital manufacturing 3d printing, CNC manufacturing tied with smart parametric design. You know, over a web based browser can can give customers a really great experience of ordering furniture instead of kind of this like annoying headache of an experience which many people know in ordering furniture.
Morgan Bailey 9:30
Imagine and I love it. It all started with a coffee table. Right? The Yeah, that's an amazing Inception there. And it's okay, so, so you launched off. You said okay, let's play in this space, which is is pretty bold. I mean, I don't know my my idea of like the investment it takes to to buy this machinery the size that you would need for 3d printing. You know, again, I'm not super familiar with 3d printing in terms of how It actually works. But I imagine like that, that that's kind of a leap there.
Jillian Northrup 10:06
Well, we already had. So from our previous businesses, we already we already had the CNC machines to kind of, you know, do some use cases there. And then when, you know, we picked up, we had a couple of small 3d printers already to play with, we picked up a large one, which it was the largest one that we could get quickly. And without paying a crazy amount of money, it was kind of like the cheapest really, really large is a large format. One, it's that one was a four by four by four, I think about printing, printing bed size. And it was just so fussy, like, it took a long time to get it, and then we finally get it. And it was so fuzzy. These machines are you know, people think, Oh, it's, it's, there's there's nothing turnkey about 3d printing. I mean, in some of the smaller like little machines you can get now they seem to be getting better and better in their in their turnkey ability, but, but you truly have to love the machines, it's kind of like buying an old car, it's just like, a thing that you're always tweaking on. So we got this big one to start playing around with. And it taught us a lot, you know, just the large printing, we learned so much just in those first few months of having that large machine. And then one of the things that we learned was, we should just make our own machines. So we were making our own 3d printing machines, because we wanted something that was large enough to be able to do the things we wanted to do. And when we saw this one, we looked at the one, and we kind of could tell how it was built. And, you know, we looked at other machines, other small 3d printing machines, we see how those are built. And so we just we scaled it, and design it, we have a we got an electrical engineer on our staff, and we built with, you know, design one to spec and then built one out, learned from building that one. And we built the second one way cheaper than purchasing them, and a little bit faster, actually then ordering them. That's amazing. I
Morgan Bailey 12:33
mean, that's ambitious, on many levels first to start a company doing 3d printing, and then to say, I'm going to, you know, you know, we're going to build our own 3d printer. So okay, you know,
Jillian Northrup 12:44
we actually, we tried to, we tried to talk ourselves out of building it multiple times, because we kept saying, well, we kept saying, We're not a, we're not a machine company. At the end of the day, our objective is not to make and sell 3d printed 3d printers. Our objective is to make furniture, that's what we want. That's what we want to do, we want to make some really cool furniture. And we want to like see if we can do it with a combination of 3d printing and CNC manufacturing. We want to see if we can do that. But then we wound up building the machines and, and so the only thing we didn't do is we didn't build our own extruders, which is the head that delivers the material. So we purchased those.
Morgan Bailey 13:31
I'm curious, because you're starting to get into bit lingo. And, you know, I remember extrusion that word from my days playing in SolidWorks went back when I was an engineer, but I'm not sure a lot of our listeners are really, you know, aware of what what it entails. I'm wondering if you could just briefly take us through, you know, you know, a 3d printing 101. Like, you know, what does that look like?
Jillian Northrup 13:55
Sure, so the machines are the ones that we built our gantry system, which means that they run they have a big box, they look like a big square, we actually called the first one, the fridge because it just looks like a big, a big aluminum square. It's, it's bad goes up and down. And it's extruder, which is the nozzle if you will, you know, I I sometimes refer to it as a industrial glue gun. So if you picture like a hot glue gun, just pressing out that hot glue that we've all done that in craft class, it's like that, but on a much more industrial level. So you've got this hot end, which is like your hot glue gun, and then you've got this canister above it that's got all the material in it and it's more sophisticated than I'm, you know, describing it as but that's the the essence of it. And then that's on and off. arm, a gantry arm that runs both in the x and y direction. And then the bed runs in the z direction. If we remember our 3d graphs,
Morgan Bailey 15:13
I do it's bringing back the old vector calculus. Right? Let's, let's, let's not go back there. Okay. Okay, so you have this box, you know, you have you have a bed that moves up and down, you have the nozzle, which which kind of moves from side to side, left to right. And then you you create some design, and then it just starts laying down material. Okay, so, you know, I think one of the big mysteries for me is when we talk about the material for 3d printing, like, like, what is that? Because now when I look at things that have been created, and you know, with 3d printers I get, I sometimes have difficulty imagining that coming out of a nozzle.
Jillian Northrup 15:55
Yeah, yeah, well, the, there's so many different kinds of materials that you can work with, with a 3d printer, there's no, there's no just one material of real, there's, there's a couple really common ones, what we're using is essentially, a kind of plla, which is a bio based material. It's it, it gets, it's, it's like a plastic, it is a bio plastic, if you will, it's a bio polymer, technically, and when it gets really hot, it turns into a knot, it's not liquid, you could get it hot enough to be liquid, it's, it's like a it's like a glue gun. lack of a better word. It's, it comes out of the nozzle in a very similar way. And there, there's a whole you know, very, there's a whole art to it. And the people that we have, you know, on the shop floor running these machines, every day are, are watching them meticulously and endlessly tweaking for the different pieces that we're printing to make sure that they come out well, because there's a sweet spot. As you extrude this material that you heat it up, it now becomes molten, you don't want it to molten or it'll just ooze and it won't lay like a bead, nice and smooth. But you don't want it too hard. Because it needs to stick to the previous layer, and weld itself to that. So there's just a like, it's a bit of material science of, of hot and cool, we've got all these fans around the extruder. So you're laying down the material, you've got the fans blowing on it, by the time your next pass comes around of laying down more material on that your first layer has to be solid enough so that it can hold up the second layer. So there's a lot going on there just with the fuzziness of the success of the individual print, you know, not to mention everything that's been done before, which is all the design thinking and all the creation around what is this piece that we're even going to print. So there's a lot of different steps that are that are all coming together here from design to manufacturing to and product.
Morgan Bailey 18:26
And so that the actual printing process, how long does that take?
Jillian Northrup 18:31
Oh, that is 100% depends on the piece. So we print everything from these little tiny, you know, accessory pieces to full five feet wide chaise lounge. So a tiny accessory piece takes, you know, maybe an hour to print out. And that's just because we're printing it on our little tiny machines, we could print it much faster on the larger machines, the big prints take about 16 hours 12 to 16 hours depending.
Morgan Bailey 19:07
So, when it comes to materials, because one things that you know, that you know, we connect on and this idea of bringing, you know, sustainability into furniture design. Right. And so, I mean, you know, and I know there are a lot of, you know, kind of facets to to why your process has a lot of elements sustainability. So first question is is you know, I guess what, you know, what led you into looking at this process from the perspective of sustainability?
Jillian Northrup 19:36
Uh, yeah, that's an interesting question because and people often ask that we, my, my, my husband's, you know, trajectory through our businesses. We always had that in our business. We always use sustainable materials, water based finish. Is FSC certified woods, people, people just didn't care too much, honestly, I found we found you know that our customers, you know, they liked it. But at the end of the day, it was it was really more about the design that made their decisions, not so much about the sustainability, I think people's mindset has changed considerably. And when you're, when you're looking at now supporting a company, you, you look at that, we start when we started model number, we decided to use these bio based materials, because we wanted to see, we really wanted to see if we could just make the bio based materials work and not have to go to the petroleum based materials. When you run the material in the 3d printers through the the hot end and, and extrude them out of these machines, they get the material gets heated up, and anything that's in there, become can off gas at that point. So if you're using these kind of more toxic materials, you're getting those toxics toxicity is coming out into the shop space. And then you've got everyone has to be wearing, you know, masks, and I have a friend who runs a lab, for a large company, and they they do a lot of petroleum based materials, and he wears a full oxygen tank on his back with a full respirator mask. So that he can just be walking around all day and not worry about the ventilation and they also have ventilation, of course. But with the bio based materials, you don't, you don't need that as much you can just rely on good ventilation in the shop, and not have to worry about all the toxicity is coming out. So to kind of answer your question, it was all done for selfish reasons, it was all done. Because we didn't want to work with toxic materials ourselves, we didn't want to have you know, we're in the shop every day, we're you know, around all of this stuff every day, even the woods, you know, if you if you buy woods, ply woods that have formaldehyde, and um, when you cut through that, you're releasing the formaldehyde into the air, and then you're breathing it in, we just didn't want to have any of that around us. So we just don't use it in the shop. We didn't, when we first started, we kind of just did that and didn't really promote it. And then as we got into it more, we like we should start promoting this side of it. Because this is something that's really cool and that we are really passionate about. As we got more into it and promoting it. Also, the materials on the 3d printing side have gotten better, even in the last two years, they've gotten better new materials have come out. In the last year, two different materials have come out, making the biobased materials better, more usable for 3d printing more durable, more, they can stand up to UV, they can stand up to more more environments and more use. So as we go along, there's more, more and more people are asking for these materials. And that means that more and more options on the materials are being created, which is great.
Morgan Bailey 23:39
So when it comes to the materials, you know, I mean, obviously like the, the, you know, biobased plastics, I mean, that makes sense. You know, you can you can melt them, but you know, can you you know 3d print metal wood, like, you know how, you know, what are your limitations there?
Jillian Northrup 23:54
Well, they're there is 3d printed metal. We are actually using 3d printed wood already in our materials. There's 3d printed cotton, there's 3d printed glass, there's a there's a company I was talking to that is in the process of making 3d printed wool. There's a lot of different options out there. The question is more like what really works, how, how good is it How well does it How well does it print and how well does it stand up to something really large like what we're doing. And then there's issues like the 3d printed metal is you need a special machine for so you can't just use any machine for that 3d printed carbon fiber. You would want that on its own dedicated machine and not mix the two. But the wood that we're using is pretty awesome. And some of these other materials that are coming out are super exciting. They they do a couple things. They add a really unique texture to the final product. They use two different kinds of, of waste in different industries. So there's the wood that is coming from lumber and flooring companies that just have have all this. They saw the boards all day, and they get this massive amounts of sawdust, and then they try to find ways to make money honestly off of that sawdust, because they have so much of it. And it's an issue for them to dispose of it. So they turn into a revenue stream where they can sell it to other industries. One of the industries that they have been able to sell it to is the the PRA industry. So the material science industry and making this these products, so they mix the Pl a with the wood, which makes the plla go farther, because it's like about half and half, and then it makes the wood printable, and then you have this cool, it's the same process. But now you have it in wood, we're able to have different colors, depending on the wood, the tones of the woods that are ground up and added. So we have like a darker color and a lighter color. And they're there, we're doing some experiments, they're like sandable, and stainable. So they really, it's really wood at the end of the day. So it's really cool. And there's amazing more and more things coming out in that area all the time. It's just, it's all so new, that there's a lot of experimentation and figuring out what's the best materials for us to use.
Morgan Bailey 26:44
I mean, so to me, it sounds like with 3d printing. I mean, obviously, you know, it's, it's a relatively new technology as far as technologies go. And it sounds like in many ways, it's it's just expanding at, you know, an accelerating rate. And in terms of what it can do, and the materials. And I'm curious, you know, in one of our conversations, you you mentioned that, you know, one of your goals is like, you know, you have this like mission to redefine how furniture can be manufactured. Right, both in terms of his process and terms of sustainability. So Tom, tell me a little bit like, what does that look like? Like when you say you have that mission? Like, tell me about that?
Jillian Northrup 27:22
Yeah, I mean, the the furniture industry, in general is very wasteful. It's one of the industries, that creates a lot of waste both in the pieces that it makes overseas and chips back here, and then lots of it, lots of the pieces go to landfill. The the the way that furniture is made right now is, is it's designed and produced before it's sold, right. So mass amounts of say chairs and sofas are made, well sofas, actually not so much but but different kinds of furniture, they're all made in advance and then brought over to the states and sold you've got a lot of waste in transportation back and forth on cargo ships and across the country. And trucks and then you have a lot of waste that comes when pieces don't sell and then just go to the landfill. And then you know you have the materials themselves that are used, you're using a lot of pressboard and veneers and a lot of petroleum based plastics in the in the pieces, then you've got our idea on that is to not make anything until it is sold, which is very different. So we make everything on demand we have no waste because if something is not a good design and nobody wants to buy it, then it doesn't go to the landfill because it was never made it it's kind of it's it's a super fun way for us to be able to produce things we we make we can make things and kick them out to the world and and have very little very little risk. We don't we haven't poured a bunch of money into this one design gotten it made, you know in China by the bazillion and brought it back over here and now we're trying to market it. You know we we can make fun designs, we can kick them out to the to the world as people order them and then we make them on demand. So we're cutting out that shipping across the seas, infrastructure, we're cutting off cutting out the the possibility that a bunch of this stuff would just get trashed. And then we are using were dedicated to only using environmentally friendly materials. So we're super strict about that internally. We you know, kind of critique every material as it comes in And we've even started to partner with a couple other companies that make things that we aren't, we have no intention to make like glassware and blankets to go with our furniture and and we're only going to park we are only partnering with people that are in a similar similar mindset in terms of the materials.
Morgan Bailey 30:25
So when you talk about, you know, only using environmentally sustainable materials, how do you vet? How do you vet that
Jillian Northrup 30:35
we will only use materials that are biodegradable, or recyclable in some way. And so far, we have nothing that's petroleum based, we've kind of added that around, we might bring in petroleum based products, if they're if there's second cycle, you know, if they're, if they're up something that already existed, but no, no virgin petroleum based materials. We currently don't have any, any petroleum based materials in our in our line. But but so it has to be, you know, a bio based material, or it has to be recyclable. There's certain materials like certain metals that are just endlessly recyclable, like aluminum that are great. You can reuse aluminum and aluminum endlessly, much more so than glass even. And so we use that and some of some of our materials where it's called for.
Morgan Bailey 31:35
So in this mission, you know, I'm curious, do you like it? Do you see the industry moving in this direction?
Jillian Northrup 31:46
I think so. I mean, I think I think as people see more of it, as consumers see more of it available, they start questioning, and you already see, you already see companies moving in that direction. There's, there's a question to, you know, there's a little bit of greenwashing, of course, that you see across companies, where companies will say, Oh, yeah, we, you know, we were sustainable in this way, or we, you know, use eco friendly, eco friendly materials here. But I think consumers are more and more interested in learning about the companies that they're purchasing from learning about the products that they're purchasing, and doing deeper dives, especially when it comes to larger furniture pieces that they're really investing in, they kind of want to know why, why are they buying this one? And putting their money to good use?
Morgan Bailey 32:51
Yeah, I mean, it's something I mean, so personally speaking, you know, I'm starting to think a lot more about you know, where the materials, you know, come from, you know, the other day I, I built some furniture out of wood. And it wasn't till after that, I was like, I have no idea where this comes from. I have no idea is this sustainably harvested? I know nothing about that, you know, so I mean, and it got me curious. You know, I was actually reading a book that was that was talking about, you know, a lot of issues around, you know, managing forests and timber and things like that. And I really don't know. So, you know, it sounds like you're saying, you know, people are starting to become a little more aware or a little more savvy?
Jillian Northrup 33:31
I think they are. And I think that I think there's a, I think it's a talking conversation point for lots of people. And a point of pride of, you know, buying things that are, are sustainably minded and, and putting their money into those particular places. Like, there's a lot of options for people to do that, and it's become rich become more interesting to people. And hopefully, you know, the, the hope is that the design will be good to where people will be able to find the designs that they want in the sustainability that they want. So they'll be able to have both things is the ultimate goal. So they don't have to compromise on either one. Right?
Morgan Bailey 34:20
And the quality, right? I mean, because, of course, yeah, you know, and a in a society where you know, you can just go to IKEA and get something really cheap, you know, that ultimately, you know, is is has a shelf life of two years, maybe at which point you get something else and that just ends up going to a landfill. So, you know, being able to invest up front and something that has, you know, you want it to it's it's a beautiful design, high quality and sustainable materials.
Jillian Northrup 34:49
Yeah, absolutely. And also, I think everything has gotten a little more expensive across the board. So you know, you look at ikeas prices and they're not as cheap as I think, as I remember the music used to being, so then you start looking at it, you're like, well, if I'm putting this much down, maybe if I put, you know, maybe I should put a little more down and look around more. So I think, for sure, there's that idea of, of a, you know, not not buying something that's just super cheap, but at the same time, you know, not everyone can, can be that. Sorry, not everyone can be that picky with their, with their money, of course. And then but then if you look at the difference and the Delta, you know, I think that's important to say, Okay, I could spend this money, and it's only gonna last me this long, and it's made of this, or I spend this money, and it's on a different level. So making those kind of more conscious decisions.
Morgan Bailey 35:56
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's, I mean, that's obviously, you know, you know, just to call out that is a privileged decision to be able to make to be able to have that upfront cash. But ultimately, I think there are a lot of individuals out there who, who probably could make that an upfront investment. Of course, I understand that a lot of individuals who can't I think it's understandable, you know, so, you know, we're kind of coming to a close, but I'm curious, like, you know, as, as consumers, you know, what, what recommendations do you have to us to when it comes to furniture, and things of that nature, to purchase consciously?
Jillian Northrup 36:29
I mean, I get that I get asked that from time to time, and I think the answer is, um, it's, it's time consuming, but I think the answer is to just do a little research and to be to be conscious of what you're buying. You can you can investigate the companies, you can look at, you know, the certifications that they have, you can look at their, their policies, where they're, where they're located, where their stuff comes from, where, you know, what they're saying about the company, and, and even reach out to the companies for more information, if they're not, if they, if you feel like they're not giving it. So just, like you said, you know, when you buy the wood to make the project, you know, ask the people you're buying it from a little bit and ask how, ask how to buy how to buy what you want. Because they because it is out there, it is available?
Morgan Bailey 37:25
And I think that's a great question. And I think a lot of us hesitate to ask, but I think the more we ask, the more you know, these, you know, even if they're just reselling, would you know that they purchase from a lumberyard somewhere? The more the more we ask, the more that they're, they're going to realize that they're going to be aware, and the more we can drive demand, because hey, there are more people asking these questions. Maybe we need more of these different products in there. So I guess to all those listening, ask more questions, be more curious. And don't be afraid to annoy a store clerk? You know, so awesome. So I'm curious. Yeah, as we kind of wrap up here. I'd love to know, you know, kind of what's on the horizon for you. what's what's exciting coming up?
Jillian Northrup 38:04
Well, we just opened our first real microfactory, which is our facility in Oakland, Oakland, down by the estuary. I don't know if your listeners are local to the Bay Area, California Bay Area. We're in Oakland, and we're having a open house to celebrate our new microfactory. Next week, actually, on June 10. If this airs before, then, we are we're on. We're on social media, on Instagram model number furniture, or model number comm if you want more information about that. And we did just come out with a line of products for the summer, some outdoor products that are really cool, and we're going to be coming out with more stuff with new materials. We're really excited about material innovation that's happening in this space. And it's allowing us to launch even more exciting things around around larger furniture pieces. So, so keep us on your radar and check us out. Sign up for our newsletter and you'll you'll see what's coming out next.
Morgan Bailey 39:15
Awesome joint. Thank you so much. This is a really informative and educational conversation as far as 3d printing goes. I'm very curious. I don't know if I'll be able make it to the open house. But I definitely want to see that mysterious 3d printer and action sometime. And
Jillian Northrup 39:30
yes, they will. They will be an action at the open house. So come on over.
Morgan Bailey 39:34
Amazing. So thank you so much. Look forward to seeing you know where my number goes. And you know, I'm going to peruse your website to see if there's anything that really suits my fancy. Awesome. Thanks, Morgan. Awesome. Good luck with your endeavor and look forward to our next conversation. Okay, thank you. Right. Thanks for listening to another episode of the profit meets impact podcast if you've enjoyed this experience. Please subscribe wherever you find your podcast and leave a positive review. You can also find out more about the podcast at www.profitmeetsimpact.com
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